I don’t know how many escalators it took, but it was a long descent to the basement of the Louisville convention center. At the bottom of the last escalator an open door invited guests into a large room of chairs and tables. Off to the side of the room was a circle of 20 chairs. I was here mostly out of curiosity.
Upstairs a conference was taking place and pastor Mark Dever had invited anyone who was questioning the faith, or skeptical, to join him in the conference basement where they could ask him any questions they wished. I was here to listen.
The 20 chairs filled up quickly, mostly with college students, gathered in a circle of strangers, filling the room with awkward, anxious silence. But it didn’t take long for Dr. Dever to begin, to greet each individual personally, and to invite the questions.
The stories represented in the room were diverse. One young man had grown up in the church, but towards adulthood became increasingly skeptical towards the church. One young woman talked about her struggles in her transition from Eastern religions to Christianity and how she was not convinced Christianity was an improvement, or if the transition was worth the hassle. Another young man was interested in the faith but held tightly to questions that he believed contradicted the inerrancy and validity of scripture.
I don’t recall all the specific questions that were asked (there were many questions), but I clearly recall one moment when Dr. Dever responded to one question with a very simple answer—“Yes, I do believe in that, because Jesus said it happened, and I’m with Jesus.”
At that moment something in my mind “clicked.” Like the first marble dropping in a Rube Goldberg machine, Dever’s statement set off a series of mental and spiritual connections. I scribbled in my notebook one simple line: “I’m with Jesus.”
After the meeting I found my way out of the conference center basement and out onto a sidewalk, breathing the fresh air, and tossing around in my mind a new, simpler approach to apologetics. I call it the “I’m With Jesus” method. Now of course this is not the only thing to be said about Scripture, the authority of the text, and the infallibility of the Old Testament, but it’s a very handy apologetic approach for settings like this one.
Perhaps it would help if I demonstrated this by asking and hopefully answering a handful of common questions to illustrate how it works.
Question: In that silly story about Jonah getting swallowed by a whale, certainly you don’t believe that really happened, do you? Was he a real man or a fictitious character to begin with? Did he really spend a weekend inside a whale? Did he really go on to preach in Nineveh?
Answer: Yes, I believe Jonah was a real man, a prophet, who was also swallowed by a “great fish” (whale?), who spent three days inside that fish, before eventually finding his way to Nineveh. How do I know? I know because Jesus confirms these facts by the testimony of his own mouth (Matt. 12:39-41). Jesus assumes the validity of the story, so I affirm it, too. I’m with Jesus.
Let’s try another one.
Question: Did the Genesis flood really happen? Did Noah really build an ark? Did the flood really destroy the population? Wasn’t the flood story just a rip-off from some ancient flood myth told by the Babylonians?
Let’s ask Jesus.
Answer: “And he said to the disciples, ‘… Just as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of Man. They were eating and drinking and marrying and being given in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all” (Luke 17:22,26-27). I’m with Jesus.
Let’s turn to the authenticity of scripture.
Question: How many authors composed the book of Isaiah? Some scholars would say the book has multiple authors (2 or 3), some doubt that any of the authors could have been the prophet Isaiah himself, thereby undercutting the authority of scripture in some ways. So how do we answer? Ask Jesus.
Answer: In the gospels we see that Jesus assumes that the prophet Isaiah wrote the book of Isaiah, citing Isaiah as the single author, and alluding to no secondary authors (see Matt 13:14 and Isa 6:9-10, Matt 15:7 and Isa 29:13). I’m with Jesus.
The same works on a critical issue of personal salvation.
Question: Is Jesus really the only way to God? Aren’t there multiple paths to heaven?
Answer: “Jesus said to him, ‘I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me’” (John 14:6). I’m with Jesus.
That’s how it works.
Actually, consider collecting your own list of difficult questions and then go read the gospels. See if Jesus answers your questions or makes allusions that help to answer your questions. You may be surprised at what you learn.
This method of apologetics will not answer every question (I know), but it certainly helps out with some big ones.
C.S. Lewis famously said that Jesus was either a pathological liar who duped us, a lunatic nut case that should have been medicated, or he is the Lord over all creation who is to be worshiped and followed (my paraphrase). Jesus can be only one of the three—but he must be one of the three.
By arguing from his very own words we set forward the ultimate question that faces all of us, a question straight from the mouth of Jesus: “Who do you say that I Am?” We all must reckon with Jesus. We must all either reject his words or we must trust his words.
I’m grateful for the lesson learned in a convention center basement. This truth, so simple and yet so profound, has altered (and simplified) my understanding of apologetics.
I’m with Jesus.